I am so very sorry for the loss of your son .
I can not imagine the pain you and your family are feeling today .......I wish strength for you ,and the ability to carry on , know that you are not alone .
((((Truman))))
i have been on this site daily, almost from its beginning, since i left the jws in 2001, but i have been more of a reader than a poster, as you can see from my post count.
i know few here know me, although i know many of you through reading your posts.
maybe it is not right to ask for support, when i generally stay quietly in the background of this forum, but i want only to speak a human misery of the deepest kind.
I am so very sorry for the loss of your son .
I can not imagine the pain you and your family are feeling today .......I wish strength for you ,and the ability to carry on , know that you are not alone .
((((Truman))))
"my dream has come true" i have a bullshite story in the latest watchtower..
Funny CoCo I was thinking the very same thing ,What the heck is she wearing ???
i, like most born ins grew up being taught that everyone who was not a jw was inherently wicked, that they were dishonest, unloving, selfish, bad parents who don't care about their children, and also sad empty people with no direction in life.. as i grew older i started to see that this wasn't always true with every one, that what i was taught wasn't equating with what i was seeing.. by high school i could see that my friends at school, (yes worldly friends eek!
) we're actually decent people with morals, they may have engaged in a little fornication here and there but not promiscuously, and they were good honest people, with goals and parents that cared for them.. but after high school i was phsycologicaly bullied into ceasing contact with my friends altogether, leaving me with little contact with outside world, and the cult mentality had more room to grow, not fully, but enough to unconsciously not fully trust 'worldly' people.. however, once i'd left the org and began to meet people again, i was amazed at actually how good, honest, loving, kind, and caring many people can be!
who love their spouses and children and try their very best to be good parents and partners.
Same experience here ... exactly the same . Sorry to say it took me soooo very long to realize the lies I had been led to believe . Once you are out and stop filling your head with Witness nonsense you begin to 'really' see and appreciate the people around you .
this is what the world is coming to (article from the arkansas gazette):.
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"new york city's new sensitivity guidelines for standardized tests ban 50 undesirable words that might 'evoke unpleasant emotions' in students, including 'dancing,' 'dinosaurs,' and 'birthdays.
I had a witness friend that was highly offend if you used the word "fart" ...I had never heard of such a thing ,and thought she was kidding until one day she pulled me aside and reprimanded me for bad language . I explained to her maybe from her town in the south this was a bad word ,but from were we live it is not ,but she still insisted I should never say that in front of her , wind or gas was more appropriate Whatever .....avoiding her seemed the better answer to me !
as some of you who read my previous thread know, my matrix moment has passed, and i am on my way out.
i am trying very hard to fade slowly in hopes that my wife will wake up, and maybe my family too.
the problem is, my conscience still works well, and i don't want to go out in if service and tell people things that i know aren't true.
I remember going through that .... my conscience would no longer allow me to lie to others either .
If you have to go out ,go to the door by yourself ,and ask any house holder, 'what do you really think of JW's coming to your door ? Would you like to know how to make them stop ? "
Create your own entertainment ....or do what most do and just fill in an hour or two on the card and turn it in ... keeps everyone happy
One time the service overseer was badgering me for my husbands time slip ( he never went out ) When I got tired of lying for him the overseer wouldn't accept it and kept saying 'just an hour didn't he maybe get at least an hour in ???" When I said 'Sure put an hour down for him " That made the overseer happy ..even when he KNEW it wasn't true .
yes, friends, it's that time once more... when we clip some wt art to a post and try to find all the subliminal wt propaganda messages hidden in the illustration.
(kinda like, "can you find the differences between these two drawings" for kids in the sunday comics).
here's the illustration:.
God only likes you to wear sensible shoes ,dockers and button down shirts for casual wear . You can always tell a weak sinner by their sneakers and t-shirts w/logos !
i am by nature a reticent soul.
i am perfectly happy to watch from the sidelines as others debate and contest, poke, prod, and cajole one another.
as an observer, i still gain.
Welcome SocratesWannabe ,great first post !
come this july, i will have been out of the jw's for 20 years.
and it has been quite a long time since i've really spent any serious time studying up on jw news and doctrines although i do still read here occasionally.
but after today looks like i've got some work to do.. my first sergeant called me this morning asking for my help to fix his dad's truck as i'm an auto technician in my civilian job.
Sounds like you have it covered well . I agree with DOC make sure you warn them that the BS conductor will tell them this is Satan trying to detour their study .
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just wondering if anyone ever actually saw any of the gb members partaking of the emblems?.
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When I was a child there were 3 Elderly members,two men one woman , that would partake of the emblems each year . It was a novelty to watch them each year .
the more i'm reading and thinking about what i have previously learned it just opens a whold new can of worms.. my husband and i have been reading/comparing the nwt, diaglot, reference bible, etc.
and i saw where the society added words, changed meaning, even added an entire sentence without ().
i have seen where they have emphasized sayings in the watchtower that are not in the bible like "paradise earth".
So Confused ,Welcome to the board !!! I almost cried reading your post because I clearly remember the confusion I went through when I first started 'waking up' .
It is a confusing and scary time at first,but hang in there it gets SO much better . The feeling of freedom is amazing and finally thinking on your own is priceless. I was 44 yrs old before I began my journey out,my advice to you would be don't waste another moment .
Give your sister a call . I shunned my older brother for many yrs . I missed seeing my only neice growing up . These are huge regrets . Luckily my brother forgave me and we now are working at be closer and being a real family . It is not to late for you either . One thing you must learn is to throw fear aside ,being a JW taught me to be so fearful of everything it sucks the joy of life out of you . Once you realize it is YOUR choice to step over that fear and really live things become clearer and less scary .
I wish you and your family the best .